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Topic: Darlene's topic has suggested me this question: will Christian God reward good Muslims?
Usually in modern theology we tend to follow the path of the revelations. So we usually wonder about the judgement of Allah regarding "good Christians" according Muslim theology.

But, what about the other way round? Which is the role of Islam in the prophecies of the Bible? What does God says about the last revelation and the judgement of the "good Muslims?"
I've got some interesting hypothesis about, overall regarding prophecies about Islam and Muslims, but since this is a forum of comparative theology I'm curious to know which the opinion of the members about this matter.
Posted by Luca 
Jul 21, 2008
4:45 AM
The Christian God to reward Muslims?

I've never seen Muslims in the Bible.
Jul 21, 2008
12:05 PM
...

But Jesus forgives everybody... That's what he died for, didn't he? Even Hitler must be in heaven right now.
Jul 21, 2008
12:06 PM
Luca,

I don't think "Judgment" is a task of "God" according to the christian prespection.

It's absent or very blur in Christianity if God [Trinity/Jesus/Father] will judge christians or if you can be a christian [believing in Jesus] and at the same time be punished for your sins in a "Judgiment Day".

For Christians [current christians which Muslims believe they distorted their relegion as Muslims believe in Jesus and his fellowers as good people], Muslims don't believe in Jesus which is the only way to enter heaven [no matter how good those Muslims are] and on the contrary there're people who believe in Jesus [and don't have even to be relegious] who could find the only way to enter heaven [no matter how bad they are].

Posted by Maged 
Jul 21, 2008
12:17 PM
[current christians which Muslims believe they distorted their relegion as Muslims believe in Jesus and his fellowers as good people]***

Good people means good in following the right traditions of YHWH worshipping which have always been during history [a unique god].

Muslims don't believe in Jesus which is the only way***

Mean believe in jesus "as a god". which is an important bracket in the Christianity [after the domination of the Pauline Church and Pauline traditions].

Posted by Maged 
Jul 21, 2008
12:21 PM
If you want to understand Christianity, you have to set aside your own beliefs and just listen......If you are not listening and are just trying to find a way to make your religion "better" then you will keep asking the same questions over and over again.

So

For those who want to know what Christians believe, it is this:

We believe that Adam and Eve broke their covenant with God and no matter how much man has tried to repair the damage, man has always failed because we are not perfect.

God understood that man could not repair the damage that Adam and Eve and set up the commandments to prove TO man we cannot even obey laws that are there for us to follow.

So

only God could repair the damage and he did by taking the responsibilty even though God is innocent and we are the guilty ones who should have taken the responsibility.

When God repaired the damage done by Adam and Eve, he became "the second Adam" which means a new covenant has been made between God and man.......The second Adam is symbolic of a new relationship between God and man.

I know that I am dragging this on a bit but you have to understand the background so you will understand our belief.

As Christians, we accept that God has made a new covenant and that we as humans are no longer condemned to separation from God.......The Bible says that if we believe that God did this, then a transformation happens to us so that we become renewed or "born again".....We become supernaturally filled with the joy and peace of knowing that we are again reunited with God and that there is the promise that we will never be separated from Him even after death.

Christians who are TRUE FOLLOWERS AND BELIEVERS IN THIS PROMISE still fail God and fail ourselves and others because we are still human but now we have a relationship with God so that we can go to him and ask him for forgiveness.......God knows if we are really asking for forgiveness so we must be honest with him because he knows anyway.....If we are lying then we obviously do not have a relationship with God because we do not understand that God ALWAYS knows the truth.

Christianity believes that every human being will have to make account for themselves when they stand before him.

Those who have denied him will have no place with him and will not be permitted to heaven.....There are only two choices - the Bible says that each person has a master - God or Evil.....Evil or Satan has been condemned to hell so his servants will go with him.

Those who have a relationship with God will be judged according to the work they have done for God - whether it is to be kind to others, or to be obedient to God.....The Bible says that some will enter heaven with a great reward and some will enter without anything.
Jul 21, 2008
3:45 PM
For those of you who did not want to read all that I posted, I will shorten it here:

A child does something wrong and makes his parents angry.
The parent may punish the child by not allowing him to play with his friends for a day.
The parent still loves the child and still takes care of him, feeds him and clothes him and still tells him that they love him.

This is how Christians see God
God does not EVER let us get away with what we do wrong
BUT he still loves us and takes the trouble to teach us how to be better people.

Yes, I know for sure that I am going to live forever with God but I can see everyday that God does not tolerate anything wrong that I do.....And I know that I will not have that PEACE if I do not ask him to forgive me.
Jul 21, 2008
3:53 PM
lol Luca I guess you got your answer, the catch is you must accept jesus as god otherwise you are going to hell regardless of who you are. As you can see how Christians jumps from one branch to another, while defy the actual teachings, in this case even try to tone down that according to NT they are to regard all non Christians as hell bound Antichrists. The duality and hypocrisy is so evident.

Take this for example "Christianity believes that every human being will have to make account for themselves when they stand before him."

What account if he has died for all mankind and taken the sins upon himself. Oh let me get it right but you have to accept him as god lol

Nevertheless all Christians will be held to this "Those who have denied him will have no place with him and will not be permitted to heaven" Clearly those who defy his clear teachings instead put faith in paul's word and the church doctrine based on that will be exposed and turned away. I will be a witness to the fact I reminded the Christians who claim to be of the fellowship to correct their ways but they were too stubborn and arrogant. As things stand anyone who says a Historical Messiah died on a cross and took their sins upon himself as well as that the Messiah is his own God and hold onto trinity they surely are the only ones confined to hell regardless of their good works in this life. Don't take my word for it, you will see it with your own eyes. On the contrary the choice is yours to make and yes Darlene you are lying to yourself snap out of it while you can.
Jul 21, 2008
4:08 PM
Darlene,

Just a major gap in your passage,

what happened to those people of the past I.E moses, isaac, and folowers who didn't believe Jesus was G-d?

and did moses believe Jesus was God, or GOD WAS GOING TO COME TO EARTH

''We believe that Adam and Eve broke their covenant with God and no matter how much man has tried to repair the damage, man has always failed because we are not perfect.

God understood that man could not repair the damage that Adam and Eve and set up the commandments to prove TO man we cannot even obey laws that are there for us to follow.

So

only God could repair the damage and he did by taking the responsibilty even though God is innocent and we are the guilty ones who should have taken the responsibility.

When God repaired the damage done by Adam and Eve, he became "the second Adam" which means a new covenant has been made between God and man.......The second Adam is symbolic of a new relationship between God and man.''
Jul 21, 2008
5:16 PM
so did jesus also die for adam and eve?

but isnt there a passage in the bible where adam and eve ask for forgivness and were forgiven by god, then, so then why the repayback?
Jul 21, 2008
5:20 PM
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