Slipknot, HIM, System Of A Down, Godsmack, and such bands are far from being metal. Christ HIM isn't metal in the slightest.

It looks to me that some people here need to learn what real metal is. Go listen to some Vital Remains, Mayhem, Kataklysm, Cryptopsy, Savage Circus, Dragon Force, Running Wild, Dying Fetus, Into Eternity, Immortal, Ensiferum, Skyclad, Mithotyn, Satyricon and so forth.

Pfft, some of you people sicken me.

Slipknot, HIM, System Of A Down, Godsmack, and such bands are far from being metal. Christ HIM isn't metal in the slightest.

It looks to me that some people here need to learn what real metal is. Go listen to some Vital Remains, Mayhem, Kataklysm, Cryptopsy, Savage Circus, Dragon Force, Running Wild, Dying Fetus, Into Eternity, Immortal, Ensiferum, Skyclad, Mithotyn, Satyricon and so forth.

Pfft, some of you people sicken me.

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I'd also like to add for all you HIM fans...it DOES NOT mean "His Infernal Majesty".

How do I know? Well Ville said so on national tv...It was in an FAQ on the HIM site before the redid it for the newest album, and for the fact that His Infernal Majesty was already a band before HIM even was created.

Why did they pick the name HIM then? Because they didn't know what to call the band so they took a random word and called it that. Thus HIM was born. I'm sure Ville wouldn't hate the bands name like he does it it actually ment His Infernal Majesty.

Noobs.

I'd also like to add for all you HIM fans...it DOES NOT mean "His Infernal Majesty".

How do I know? Well Ville said so on national tv...It was in an FAQ on the HIM site before the redid it for the newest album, and for the fact that His Infernal Majesty was already a band before HIM even was created.

Why did they pick the name HIM then? Because they didn't know what to call the band so they took a random word and called it that. Thus HIM was born. I'm sure Ville wouldn't hate the bands name like he does it it actually ment His Infernal Majesty.

Noobs.

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hey, there is no real metal or non-real metal. what there is is different metal substyles and while some are more accessible and commercial, others are more underground. if you dont like alternative metal just dont listen to it, i hate it too, but that doesnt make it "non-real" metal. live with that. music is art not a competition

hey, there is no real metal or non-real metal. what there is is different metal substyles and while some are more accessible and commercial, others are more underground. if you dont like alternative metal just dont listen to it, i hate it too, but that doesnt make it "non-real" metal. live with that. music is art not a competition

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See that's the one thing I disslike with metal, all the sub-genres. I dissagree with that because otherwise their would be far to many differant types of metal.

Power metal, death metal, brutal death metal, speed metal, folk metal, viking metal, troll metal, black metal, melodic black metal, alternative metal, industrial metal, nu-metal and so on and so on and so on and so on.

No. I say there is only metal and those that arn't metal. Metal, rock, punk, classical, country, oldies, and such. It's rediculas on how many people make up sub-genre's just to be origional.

Take HIM again (sorry I'm picking on them, but they are good examples). They classify themselves as "Love Metal"...Whether it be joke or not, it's just another way to try and be origional. They are NOT "Love Metal", they are rock...nothing else, just rock. Godsmack? Rock. Slipknot? They may seem more "metal" but in the end, they are still more so rock.

Screw the sub-genres. They are just ruining meuic. There is only one catagory for every type of music out there, and that is that (unless they combine 2, like Rap/Rock or Rap/Metal...but that's only one of the few combonations one can use to be "diverce".


NOTE: May they be underground or not. They still doesn't chance anything. I have over 6,000 songs on this computer, 97% of it all is metal all from differant bands with no copies of songs. And though lot's is underground and have diverce sounds from other songs/bands I have, in the end it is still just metal, and only metal.

See that's the one thing I disslike with metal, all the sub-genres. I dissagree with that because otherwise their would be far to many differant types of metal.

Power metal, death metal, brutal death metal, speed metal, folk metal, viking metal, troll metal, black metal, melodic black metal, alternative metal, industrial metal, nu-metal and so on and so on and so on and so on.

No. I say there is only metal and those that arn't metal. Metal, rock, punk, classical, country, oldies, and such. It's rediculas on how many people make up sub-genre's just to be origional.

Take HIM again (sorry I'm picking on them, but they are good examples). They classify themselves as "Love Metal"...Whether it be joke or not, it's just another way to try and be origional. They are NOT "Love Metal", they are rock...nothing else, just rock. Godsmack? Rock. Slipknot? They may seem more "metal" but in the end, they are still more so rock.

Screw the sub-genres. They are just ruining meuic. There is only one catagory for every type of music out there, and that is that (unless they combine 2, like Rap/Rock or Rap/Metal...but that's only one of the few combonations one can use to be "diverce".


NOTE: May they be underground or not. They still doesn't chance anything. I have over 6,000 songs on this computer, 97% of it all is metal all from differant bands with no copies of songs. And though lot's is underground and have diverce sounds from other songs/bands I have, in the end it is still just metal, and only metal.

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ps: Thanks foor the comment aswell. It's about time this thread got a little action.

ps: Thanks foor the comment aswell. It's about time this thread got a little action.

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so you say slipknot and godsmack sound like queen or pink floyd?

thats not so right IMO. in rock you have many substyles too, progressive rock, psychedelic rock, punk rock, hard rock and so on. and the same with jazz, classical, trance/house, etc. because each musical genre develops by itself there is a need to distinguish different bands inside the same genre.
think about it. without substyles everyone would just say 'i listen to metal' and you wouldnt know if they mean bands like iron maiden or bands like slayer or maybe bands like nile or whatever. with substyles if one says 'i listen to thrash metal' you know he likes slayer destruction testament and that kind of stuff
of course in the end its all about metal, but substyles are a way to communicate and understand what everyone listens

substyle doesnt ruin music. people do when saying one substyle is better than another. there are no better substyles, they just differ.

so you say slipknot and godsmack sound like queen or pink floyd?

thats not so right IMO. in rock you have many substyles too, progressive rock, psychedelic rock, punk rock, hard rock and so on. and the same with jazz, classical, trance/house, etc. because each musical genre develops by itself there is a need to distinguish different bands inside the same genre.
think about it. without substyles everyone would just say 'i listen to metal' and you wouldnt know if they mean bands like iron maiden or bands like slayer or maybe bands like nile or whatever. with substyles if one says 'i listen to thrash metal' you know he likes slayer destruction testament and that kind of stuff
of course in the end its all about metal, but substyles are a way to communicate and understand what everyone listens

substyle doesnt ruin music. people do when saying one substyle is better than another. there are no better substyles, they just differ.

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I never once said Godsmack and Slipknot sound like Queen or Pink Floyed. But they are moreso rock than metal regardless of the lame subtitltes.

I am fully aware of subtitles in other genres aswell, and I don't like it either.

As for the whole "without substyles everyone would just say they listen to 'metal' and you wouldn't know if they mean bands like Iron Maiden or Slayer"...Who cares? If they say they listen to metal all you need to do is ask what kind of bands they like.

When I'm asked what music I listen to I simply say metal. When asked about bands I state Kataklysm, Cannible Corpse, Ensiferum, Finntroll and so on. Not once do I list an actual subgenre, and people know what bands I like.

The subgenres are pointless with any music. You either like some bands or don't, that is that.

I never once said Godsmack and Slipknot sound like Queen or Pink Floyed. But they are moreso rock than metal regardless of the lame subtitltes.

I am fully aware of subtitles in other genres aswell, and I don't like it either.

As for the whole "without substyles everyone would just say they listen to 'metal' and you wouldn't know if they mean bands like Iron Maiden or Slayer"...Who cares? If they say they listen to metal all you need to do is ask what kind of bands they like.

When I'm asked what music I listen to I simply say metal. When asked about bands I state Kataklysm, Cannible Corpse, Ensiferum, Finntroll and so on. Not once do I list an actual subgenre, and people know what bands I like.

The subgenres are pointless with any music. You either like some bands or don't, that is that.

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"I never once said Godsmack and Slipknot sound like Queen or Pink Floyed. But they are moreso rock than metal regardless of the lame subtitltes." - i know you didnt say it, its just the conclusion i take from you when you say substyles are useless and we should label them simply as rock.
and btw slipknot and godsmack are metal, regardless of being commercial or sold out or 'kids metal' or whatever you want to call them.

again, i never meant substyles were important to label every damn band nor to encourage competition between them but to make it easy on communication. if one tells you about a band you dont know its easier saying its power or death or whatever than simply saying its metal, that would be so vague

anyway i guess we both made our perspectives clear. no point on keeping discussing this.

"I never once said Godsmack and Slipknot sound like Queen or Pink Floyed. But they are moreso rock than metal regardless of the lame subtitltes." - i know you didnt say it, its just the conclusion i take from you when you say substyles are useless and we should label them simply as rock.
and btw slipknot and godsmack are metal, regardless of being commercial or sold out or 'kids metal' or whatever you want to call them.

again, i never meant substyles were important to label every damn band nor to encourage competition between them but to make it easy on communication. if one tells you about a band you dont know its easier saying its power or death or whatever than simply saying its metal, that would be so vague

anyway i guess we both made our perspectives clear. no point on keeping discussing this.

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I can't get the whole "substyle" thing..almost every 2-3 bands have their own style, everybody does the same basic thing, but they declare they are way more original than the others...some on...in the good old days (that I missed:( ) nobody gave a damn of "substyles" it was all rock, or metal, but they didn't invent a new "substyle" whitout making any significant change...it's like saying that a movie, a romance that takes place at the country is a diferent genre from the one tacking place in the city...IT"S THE SAME BASCI S---T WHETER U LIKE IT OR NOT...the end:)

I can't get the whole "substyle" thing..almost every 2-3 bands have their own style, everybody does the same basic thing, but they declare they are way more original than the others...some on...in the good old days (that I missed:( ) nobody gave a damn of "substyles" it was all rock, or metal, but they didn't invent a new "substyle" whitout making any significant change...it's like saying that a movie, a romance that takes place at the country is a diferent genre from the one tacking place in the city...IT"S THE SAME BASCI S---T WHETER U LIKE IT OR NOT...the end:)

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a ver wey no mames que te encierras soloa cojerte algunas madres el metal ha cambiado y esas bandas que recomiendas rifan mucho pero respeta a los demas de sus maneras de interpreytar no tode satan y el apocalipsis

if ypu dont talk spanish i said that every band can be pleased as metal and even the bands you told before are some kicking ass bands but youre right about him but leave slipknot alone please motherfucker

a ver wey no mames que te encierras soloa cojerte algunas madres el metal ha cambiado y esas bandas que recomiendas rifan mucho pero respeta a los demas de sus maneras de interpreytar no tode satan y el apocalipsis

if ypu dont talk spanish i said that every band can be pleased as metal and even the bands you told before are some kicking ass bands but youre right about him but leave slipknot alone please motherfucker

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